Sunday, June 19, 2016

Re: [CCDS Members] [socialist-econ] Orlando

Orlando:  Also, another step on the road to fascism, by definition:
 
       "A politico-economic system in which there is: total executive branch control of both the legislative and administrative powers of government; no independent judiciary; no Constitution that embodies the Rule of Law standing above the people who run the government; no inherent personal rights or liberties; a single national ideology that first demonizes and then criminalizes all political, religious, and ideological opposition to it; the massive and regular use of hate, fear, racial and religious prejudice, the Big Lie technique, mob psychology, mob actions and ultimately individual and collective violence to achieve political and economic ends; a capitalist/corporate economy; with the ruling economic class' domination of economic, fiscal, and regulatory policy."

Steven Jonas, (from my book "The 15% Solution: How the Republican Religious Right Took Control of the U.S., 1981-2022"): June 9, 2014

And currently: Special to The Greanville Post | Commentary No. 44: "Orlando, Trump, Identity-Group-Hate-Politics, and the Republican Party"

URL: http://www.greanvillepost.com/2016/06/16/orlando-trump-identity-group-hate-politics-and-the-republican-party/

All the best to all, and to those to whom it applies, Happy Father's Day!  (Dr.) Steve Jonas

 

 
 
 
In a message dated 6/18/2016 10:14:19 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, patfry123@gmail.com writes:
John, I am getting lost - what do you mean by who is going to do the disarming? Are you for or against a ban on assault weapons? Pat

On Sat, Jun 18, 2016 at 10:06 AM, John Case <jcase4218@gmail.com> wrote:

I am NOT talking about infantile "armed" theories of revolution. I am simply and only talking about the slaughter right now going on in every American community. Who is going to do the disarming?

On Jun 18, 2016 8:37 AM, "Sam Webb" <swebb@cpusa.org> wrote:
What's this "Arm Up" and "blood-dimmed tide" stuff? I thought we put that rhetoric to bed a long time ago. And as a former Catholic, I was told that one sin (Hillary's) never negated another sin (Bernie's); even a good deed didn't clean the slate. Sam

On Sat, Jun 18, 2016 at 8:07 AM, John Case <jcase4218@gmail.com> wrote:
What is going on with Hillary and half the Dem establishment (maybe more) leaning toward military involvement in Syria as a response to the Orlando shooting??

Is this part of the dues we pay for relying upon a liberal to defeat Trump? We get war-baited by that horses ass, that complete fraud, into another complete fuck-up in the Mid EAst? We right off abandon the reluctance of Obama to to blow some more Mideast shit up?

I confess a certain sexist error in tending to attribute Hillary's hawkish posture to a perception issue -- can a woman president pull the trigger? Its not just posture.

There is ONLY ONE short term response to the Orlando shooting: ban ALL assault weapons. period. And enforce it. There's the rub.  If you can't do that, then, just at least, please, tell the truth -- There is NO Protection against the insanities arising from this increasingly divided, unjustifiably unequal society. You better Arm UP and prepare yourself for the blood-dimmed tide.

I see Sanders response -- ban the assault weapons -- did not stop him from remaining focused on the basics confronting our society. But doing so left him open to the accusation of be "tone deaf" to the importance and sensitivity to "hateful ideologies".  I was prepared to consider that accusation until I heard Hillary -- and many others on the liberal side -- sing the true tone: go to war against "radical jihadism".

NO thanks.


 

John Case
Harpers Ferry, WV

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